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In this video, I'm talking to over 1000 home service business owners inside of the HomeWorks community.
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This is usually just reserved for inside of HomeWorks membership.
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However, I want to share with you what we do on a weekly basis inside of the mastermind.
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And there's some great questions today about how to hire your team and do training using videos.
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We also talk about how to build a culture that is not just based on compliance, but is also built on having goals oriented with your employees and having great one-on-one meetings.
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So without any further delay, let's jump into this.
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And if you'd like to be part of this mastermind, feel free to join at home.works.
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This one's from Katura Roland, Supreme Green.
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We are a fertilization and weed control company.
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When we first started years ago, the majority of our service was fertilizing with seven spray cycles per year.
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More of our business is shifting to just weed control on non-grass properties.
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This is causing a huge scheduling imbalance.
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the workload doubles or even triples during the odd number spray cycles.
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It's almost to the point that we need another employee just for the odd number cycles, but that doesn't seem realistic for everyone to only work six on and six weeks off all year.
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What do you suggest?
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So first off, I would challenge this assumption because every time I have thought this, I've been wrong.
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Um, and so this is a limiting belief that I have had in the past.
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And that is, if I have a crazy work schedule, someone, most people don't want to work it.
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And I would agree with you that most people don't, but there are a lot of people out there, especially right now with the labor market, the way it is depending on your market.
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But like for most of us, if you put up a job ad that says, Hey, you're working two months of the year, you're working four months, you're working one week off, one week off, uh, one week on, one week off.
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there are people that it works perfect for their schedule.
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Now, most of us as business owners, we like to offer full-time jobs and we think that everyone wants a full-time job.
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When the reality is people's life situation, sometimes it would be perfect to have six weeks on six week off.
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Um,
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Like it'd be perfect for them potentially.
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And so I would put, first off, I would, before you change the business model, I would just challenge that assumption and put a job hiring, an ad up that says you're going to wait six weeks on, six weeks off all year round.
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And you're going to work crazy amounts of hours during the six weeks on.
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And some people are gonna be fine with that.
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You might put that person on salary too, and they're okay with that because they are like, hey, I wanna work really hard, and I'm gonna go to a different state where my family's at, and that's where I'm gonna hang out with them, and I'll come back and I'll work here, and I can make more money here, and then go to a lower cost living state and stay back with my family.
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That might be something that someone would do.
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So I would first challenge the assumption, because I say it mostly not at you, Ketur, but every time I have ever thought,
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I need to change my business because the scheduling of the team, every single time I have just posted a job ad that states, here's the parameters of this job.
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And it's weird.
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There are people that want that.
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In fact, you are now competing in a market where no one else is like most other companies are not offering six weeks on six weeks off year round.
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They're offering eight months, 40 hours a week for eight months of the year, for example.
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So you're actually, even though you're, the amount of people you're going after might be way smaller, the amount of people looking for that type of schedule might be smaller.
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The amount of businesses looking for that schedule also lower.
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So I would first challenge the assumption.
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And secondly, I would look very hard at scheduling to see, can we move these slightly in left and right directions?
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And even if we had to give people discounts, or even if we had to sub out certain of these cycles to be able to get certain parts that might not be as integral or important, I don't know what kind of sprays you're putting down.
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But like you, you have spraying of certain chemicals, maybe some of those you sub out just so you don't have to increase the amount of capacity of the business to the highest level.
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Cause if you could say, Hey, I only need like for three weeks, three times a year for three weeks, I need like tons, like double the capacity.
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That's when you don't want to go out and buy trucks, get equipment, hire people for the highest period of the year.
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You would rather have it where you sub out those periods.
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And I would also say, I think you could schedule it in a way where this is still possible and
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By moving people out a week, moving people back a week, and trying to spread this demand out as much as possible.
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Or even more importantly, I would move your seven spray cycles to accommodate the four times when you know you're going to be spraying the weed control.
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Again, I don't know your market.
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I don't know.
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I know.
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It just – this was always a limiting belief for me around hiring and then also a limiting belief around the fact that I thought all these – like when we did treatments back in the day, I always believe these treatments have to be done this week.
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When it's like, look –
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If I can take other jobs and reduce budget hours of other services and then move the cycles left and right, i.e.
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a week before, a week after, and make sure that during those times I have left budget hours of other work.
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So basically what you have here is you have multiple budget hour capacities.
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And so it happens that this one's way above budget hour capacity.
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And so I would take away from other areas of the business during those weeks.
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For example, there's no installs happening that week.
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I think some of those things you might have already done, so I would first go to the lowest hanging fruit, which is just change your job ad and you might be surprised.
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Will Kelly from Military Lawn Cuts.
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Number one, how do you mentally navigate the guilt of stepping away from day-to-day operations to focus on architect mode and personal growth?
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I struggle with the first one in, last one out mentality, and I'm looking for the right thought process to handle the concern of what my team might think when I'm not physically present in the office each day.
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Yeah, so I abide by the first one, first out mentality when I'm in growth mode.
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If I'm in profit mode, and once the location is stable and there's profit sharing, that's when I feel like I can step out.
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That's just me personally.
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I'm not saying...
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I still struggle with this to some degree, but I also know that I work on the weekends, I work at night.
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I work all the time.
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And when they leave, they're usually turning it off a little bit more.
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And so...
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That's how I justified it first because I just have to make sense of the fact that I know I'm working way more hours later and there's another shift that happens.
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That was how I first did it because I struggle with this too.
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And then now it's a matter of creating incentives to where it is in their best interest to make sure that the business is taken care of.
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And they start to see the benefit of me stepping away.
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The best ideas, like literally last week, a huge promotion and like change in the team structure was when I was away.
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And that's when I have the most time to focus on like rebuilding systems, talking with AI, figuring out how things need to be changed.
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There's something about flying too that's just like you're locked away in this tube, 30,000 feet above, and you can think about more broad things.
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them having a understanding as to why that helps the business, but also having a vested interest with profit sharing or their comp plan being tied to the vested interest of the business is a big one.
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Number two, I took your feedback on last week's mastermind and concluded that leadership is our biggest constraint.
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We have four new late managers that are in either different roles or have different team members or have team members that report to them now for the first time.
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What are some tactical ways to grow and develop my team's leadership?
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I brought them to a leadership conference this offseason with Sam, G, and Dan Ralphs a few months back.
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I am having each listen to the Audible book, How to Win Friends and Influence People.
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What else would give us the best leadership growth results?
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I'm a big fan of Jocko's book, Leadership Training and Tactics.
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The best leadership book that I've ever read that is super tangible.
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I will also say nothing beats alignment of goals when it comes to management by far.
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And so if you don't know what each of their goals are and you don't know how them winning in the business aligns with that, that's where I would start.
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I'll have a video coming out on this in June about how I do my one-on-ones with managers, how I make sure that we have a goals-oriented structure instead of a compliance-oriented structure.
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Because compliance and correction is the fastest way to be able to get done what you want done in the business.
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And that's why most of us will operate through checklists, SOPs, and those things are important.
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But if you have compliance and correction,
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in your culture without having goals being aligned, then you have high churn at the management level.
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And so there's a video I have coming out in June when I'm starting to talk more about my business and how I do my stuff.
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And this is one of the most important things I think once you have mid-level managers is yes, you need compliance.
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Yes, you need correction.
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Yes, you need SOPs and standards and checklists and audits and quality control and
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But if you just have those things without goal alignment, that's when you have a lot of churn.
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It's expressly shown at the leadership level because technicians sometimes will actually thrive or adopt or really enjoy having a structure of compliance because they like structure.
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They like, do these things, do this checklist, follow this script, do these things.
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It gives safety to them.
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As leaders, if they're a talent, they like more autonomy.
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And so just telling them what to do and just telling them if you don't do this, you get in trouble.
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If you do this, you get rewarded.
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Just that alone is enough.
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I have found it most beneficial to have long tenured leadership.
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And in order to have long tenured leadership, I need to ensure that I know what their goals are and then that the goals of the business align.
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And that's usually going to be through compensation, but also could be things like time off.
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Like some people, time off is way more important to them.
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flexibility, way more important to them.
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Have a company truck, way more important to them.
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So I need to know what their goals are, and then I just align the goals of the business with theirs.
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I've just consistently seen the people that build the biggest businesses have low churn at the leadership level, and they're willing to work with their leaders to make sure that their leaders' goals are aligned with the businesses, and the goals of the business are aligned with that of their leaders.
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And I've been very blessed in that category in terms of leadership, a tenor, and not having churn at that level.
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All right, so if you're wondering how you can be part of the mastermind, this is for all members of Homeworks.
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So every single week or two, we will hop on a call, answer all questions from the members.
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And the reason we do this is because at Homeworks, we actually guarantee you'll grow your business by at least 10% in revenue or profit in the first 12 months.
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And on average, that number is actually 38, over 38% of the amount that people grow their business in the first 12 months of joining the software.
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But the reason we do the mastermind and we had the Facebook group and we do our onboarding sequence the way we do, and I'm on those calls, is because what we found is you can get all the features in the world, but if you don't use it, it's not going to impact the business.
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And so when we made the guarantee around growing your business by at least 10% in revenue or profit, we realized we'd have to give more coaching and training of using the tools.
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But also when you grow really quickly, there's other constraints around leadership and labor and hiring and creating systems and operations.
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And so that's really what we try to cover on the mastermind and inside the group to be able to make sure that as someone grows, they don't actually grow.
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completely reduce the business or go bankrupt just because a fast growing business, even if it's profitable, can go bankrupt if things like accounts receivable aren't held in check.
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Training your team isn't done right.
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You're not able to hire great employees.
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And so these are a lot of things that we cover inside the HomeWorks Member Mastermind.
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So if you want to join, that's how you'll get access to these calls.
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Jeremy from Klein Lawn Care and Snowplan, what are some good ways to show employees that you appreciate them and care?
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Should you be doing this differently with people that have been with you for long term versus new hires?
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Great question.
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I think for newer hires, one of the ways to show that you appreciate them and care, yes, there's the little things, and those things are important.
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If you're more of a gift-giving type of person and your love language is gift-giving, you're usually the type of person that is like, got to go buy them ice creams and pizzas and do them at breakfast in the morning.
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And those things are good.
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Don't get me wrong.
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They are 100% good.
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For some people, that just seems so weird to them.
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It's like, just show up and do your job.
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Everyone is different in terms of how you give thanks.
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And show appreciation is usually the way you like to be shown appreciation and given thanks.
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So just be careful with that because a lot of us are money motivated as entrepreneurs or you're trying to get a bad situation.
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So you start a business because of that.
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The way that you show thanks to people is like, all right, I got to give him more money or I've got to give him a bonus.
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Sometimes that's not actually their motivation.
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And so understanding what their motivation is, is really important.
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In my opinion, if you have showed them the right level of care and appreciation, I will also say a personalized appreciation and care is always more impactful
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than broad strokes of appreciation.
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Giving money really fast is probably the most expensive way to be able to show appreciation.
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For example, if you should raise someone's pay by $2 an hour and they're working full-time, that's $4,000 a year.
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Now, this came really of reality to me at my shop years ago, my first location,
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I remember there was a couple employees murmuring about something, and the team members kind of stood up, and they were like, hey, we know Mike cares because last Thanksgiving and every Thanksgiving, he buys us turkey, ham, pie, and apple cider.
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And in my mind, I was like – I'm always so –
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worried and anxious about trying to like get higher hourly weights and like P4P and bonus and profit sharing and trying to give them a couple of dollars more per hour on base pay.
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That's thousands of dollars.
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And here's something that they were talking about that probably cost me 120 to $150 per employee.
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And so,
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Sometimes just taking dollars and cents that you would otherwise deploy towards base pay or something and be like, okay, should we do dental?
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It's not going to cost you a lot.
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Insurance, health insurance.
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Okay, I can't afford that yet.
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Okay, do a health stipend where it's like, hey, I'll cover your gym membership for up to 80 bucks a month.
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You just got to submit at the end of the quarter and we'll give you a refund.
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These are little things that like help you stand out and they'll make a bigger difference than extra $80 per month on your paycheck and guarantee you that.
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Then the next level is when you give them a gift, it's personalized because you know what their goals are.
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That's like the ultimate.
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It's very difficult to do as you scale.
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But if you have 5, 10, 15 people, knowing what their goals are and then directly trying to give appreciation or care to them individually based upon the things that you know they like or the things they're going through is probably the highest impact.
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And then random acts of generosity have seemed to be working.
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to show that you care so much is really valuable.
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Most recently for me, it's like handwritten notes, especially when you're at a certain size where you don't know the team members' names for usually several months until I'm working with you.
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That was a huge thing for me at first because I wasn't used to that.
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I felt disconnected and I'm like,
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I want to show them that I care, but then I also can't be doing one-on-ones with them all.
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And I can't be doing their training when there's hundreds of people, you know, over a hundred, I should say.
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It was a real, not a struggle, but like a learning curve for me was like, I've got to show my appreciation outside of just one-on-one or direct contact.
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And that literally might just be writing a note to them, putting it on their desk and showing that I saw something they did that was amazing.
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And that could actually be the most impactful thing.
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Because the same way that I feel kind of disconnected or I feel bad that I can't have that same personal connection I did in the past, they also, the level of impact of that note is probably higher because...
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They have heard about me.
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They've seen videos of me.
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They have heard their managers talk about me, but they never have got that connection with me.
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And so for me to take that time and show that they are a person, they are not just a number, that means a lot.
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And then one thing I've leaned into a lot too recently is doing things for them that they would never do for themselves.
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And so this doesn't have to be elaborate, it doesn't have to be $10,000 and crazy.
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But for example, I'll just give this one everyone here.
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I would recommend, or like what I have done is recent, is it costs $250 for a full detail interior of someone's car.
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And they will come, like a mobile detailing company will come, they'll do like the shampooing, everything just like incredible.
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Most people don't do that for themselves because it's a luxury.
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And so giving those out, I give those now with my thank you cards.
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It'll get them like a full out, completely well done interior cleaning of their heart.
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Think things like that that show that you're not just like, here's 250 bucks.
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Yes, that's nice.
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People will thank you, but they will absolutely remember the one time in their entire life they ever got a luxury thing like that, which is a full out mobile detailing at the office from you.
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So if we look at liquidity, leads, labor and leadership, all four parts get strained when you have business growth.
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Any time spent on other things is considered firefighting and you feel good and productive jumping from, okay, I got to do leads.
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Now I got to raise price and do liquidity.
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And so I would say you are tripping over dollars to go after pennies when you're bouncing from thing to thing, mostly for optics sake.
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I will be missing pennies, but I'm focusing on the dollar.
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And the reason we don't do it is because that means you can't go firefighting in all the other three categories of business.
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So liquidity, leads, labor and leadership.
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And I've just recently shifted to one.
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I have a video coming out this June, like for the first time, like six years, five, six years that I've shifted to one of those four L's.
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But I've been focusing on other three parts for the past five to six years.
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And so now it's time to focus on this other one, which means six months of probably letting some other things burn that are important, that are really like pressing and whatever, but it's like, this is what I have to focus on.
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And I say I think that if you are constantly feeling good by chasing fires in all four of those L's, you likely have not figured out what the constraint is, i.e.
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what is the dollar bill that you are stepping over to save pennies.
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We are looking at implementing a video training course for new team members that get hired for basic skills, mowing, landscaping, and doing weed control.
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We are also looking at implementing this for our orientation process so our regional manager gets their time back, which typically takes about three hours.
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And we want to do it in video form, ideally short form, but the hands-on training a little bit longer for orientation.
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We would rotate the speakers.
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We want to do a quiz at the end of each section to make sure they have to pass in order to move forward to get hired for their position.
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Can you maybe explain why this won't work, or do you think this is a great idea, or am I just wasting my time hiring a videographer?
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We just want to make sure that our training is top tier, dialed in, so we're duplicating the systems that we want.
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So I will say this, if you use three hours, you'll probably lose most technicians.
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I don't think you need a videographer a phone with a lapel microphone.
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Like spend $100, $50, get a really nice lapel mic that connects to the phone wirelessly or even connected solid.
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For example, if you just do a voice note, plug it into your phone and run it up your shirt and have a clip on lapel.
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and then just have the video from your phone and sync those two bad boys, you're going to be like 95% of the way there.
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Your phone works just fine.
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Especially because I think you'll change these videos within three months.
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Once we did all our videos and it's like, okay, here's the ones that didn't work.
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Now we've changed our type of mower, different type of truck.
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Everyone thinks like, I'm going to make this video training and it's done.
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literally the next week you'll want to change a part of it or you'll add a system or you'll change something or add some equipment add a new service you'll change the way you're doing your uniforms you'll change the way that you're doing the tire pressure like something will change and so the i agree with cutting in small sections i would also say three hours you are going to
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If you're talking about technicians, it's going to suck their energy out.
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If you do it more of a group environment, mix in hands-on training, you will likely be able to keep them engaged.
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But most people that are getting hired for outdoor activity are not the same person that sits behind a computer for three hours taking quizzes and watching videos.
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I almost always have seen that end up being a very rough road.
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What I like to think of it is I'm trying to systematize the training, but I need to meet the trainee where they want to be trained.
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And for most technicians, if you want them to actually absorb the information, they've got to go out and do it.
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I can watch all the videos in the world about mowing grass, but until I get in the mower and I feel the way things are operating, it's tough.
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That being said, there's a lot of knowledge that you could probably get in an hour or less, do the quizzes, do everything you've said, and get most of the benefit.
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The three hours starts to get where you're going to lose them, but also you're starting to likely train things that are not just like do's and don'ts.
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And that's when I would much more rather have a trainer and trainee relationship, checklists of what they've got to go through, signed off on, bonuses and compensation based upon passing those levels,
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There's so much churn in the first three to seven days of onboarding, like just a good team member, whether or not they work out or not.
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And one of the best ways to lose a top performer is when they have five job offers, they came and gave you a tryout.
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educational career or they dropped out of school because they hated it so much.
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I'm not saying it's a bad idea.
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I would just shorten it down as much as possible.
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Everything with safety, protocol, onboarding, payroll, software, equipment, those things are usually can be done in a video format.
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I've just seen more and more of the way more and more I try to compress training, the worse it gets.
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So completely different story when it comes to admin, for example, because they're sitting on a computer all day long.
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Hey, I know you do not recommend syncing QBO with a CRM.
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That being said, how do you run on an accrual basis?
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My QBO still syncs with the bank account, so it seems like everything will be done on cash accounting.
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Am I wrong about this, or is there workarounds that don't require tons of journal entries?
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For the vast majority of home services and businesses under $5 million, $10 million, I would recommend doing that because it's the simplest.
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If you pay for your insurance on an annual basis, you don't get to write that off as an expense in December, for example, depending on how rigid you're being with accrual.
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And then you would look at your QuickBooks and have to determine likely doing journal entries also already to be able to figure out things like insurance, payments, any sort of even like paid subscription annually.
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Anything like that would have to then also be journal entried.
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So for most small businesses, I would recommend if you're an S Corp, an LLC, you typically just cash accounting is usually the easiest unless you have huge projects.
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in December because the work hasn't been started and you don't want to pay taxes on $100,000.
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Blackbeard Lawn Care.
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Last question.
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In your $220K lawn care business breakdown, you mentioned that you never want the worst month to be less than 50% of the best month.
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how should northern companies that pre-bill snow removal handle that from a reporting standpoint to eat should we be normalizing revenue monthly for internal analysis and even after doing that we still see winter months fall below fifty percent in our market christmas services christmas nights have been sold during
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peak fall cleanup season or risk cancellation from early snow, which creates a direct labor conflict with higher demand core services.
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At that time, do you still view that as a structural weakness that needs to be solved with additional services, or is the 50% benchmark not realistic for snow-driven businesses?
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okay so i talk about this in the workshop if you go to mikeandys.com workshop it's free when it comes to the 50 percent like that is a a benchmark i've created to as as to which businesses i have consistently be profitable and not profitable home services the ones that sell and actually are able to exit versus the ones that can't and anytime you try to sell anytime you try to
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Anytime when for a quarter you lose money, so like usually it's Q1 for most people, they lose money, or any month of the year where it drops below 50% of revenue, that being said, there's so many things you can do besides just adding more services.
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Just adding other services could include, like that's Q3, which is adjacent services like Snow.
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Yes, you can do that.
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You could also create a whole new brand.
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inside the workshop, which is, like you mentioned, adding Christmas lights.
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The question becomes, well, if I'm already busy during fall cleanup, why would I even add Christmas lights?
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But there's other things you can do, whether it be winter services, whether it be more and better, which is, okay, can you sell anything else in January, February, March?
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What could that be?
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Could you pull spring rush demand forward for things like cleanups and offer big discounts to be able to get customers on in January, February, March instead of April, May, and June?
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Like, no, I'm in a snow environment.
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Well, can I include inside of my winter services, can I include things like ice melt, shoveling the walkways, and –
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the stairs and not do the plowing, for example, or maybe I do plowing as that's adjacent services here, number three.
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It'll give you five solid ways to fix the off season.
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Um, but any home service business that cure, like that is, if you fix that, so many things, good things happen because when you, when you know that every single quarter you make money, you don't have to keep so much cash in the bank during the off season.
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And that allows you to have a higher distributions.
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It allows you to be able to keep less working capital on hand.
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It allows you to have more consistent profit sharing.
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So if you hand it off to a GM, if you hand it off to managers, if you give profit sharing your team, it's more consistent.
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It's much easier to run a business when you don't have months where you lose money and quarters where you lose money and months where revenue drops by 70, 80, 90%.
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And so you have seen, yes, in that video last week, I talked about a business that's doing $220,000 and how they can fix it.
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You also, if you watch the Home Service Millionaire channel, you saw me talk to Stefano Narducci doing $5 million in revenue.
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We got to fix – for him, it's the opposite.
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He does tons of snow, and then revenue drops to 80% to 90%.
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It doesn't matter what size of business.
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If you're going to have quarters where you lose money or you have months where revenue drops by more than 50%, it's very hard to run that business.
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And it is a solvable problem that will usually take three to four years to solve because you have to figure out your offer.
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When do I pitch it?
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What offer do I need to give customers to be able to pull demand forward?
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What offer do I need to give them to be able to have a continuity throughout the rest of the offseason?
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Winter services is what we call it.
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So check out the workshop.
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It should be beneficial.
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But regardless of the size of business, this is the Achilles heel of every home service business.
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That's why the off-season, the book I made, the subtitle is Why Home Services Are a Terrible Business.
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It is because of that.
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It is the Achilles heel.
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Love you all.
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Hope you have a fantastic week.
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Look forward to some cool stuff we have coming out in May.
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And we will see you on the next Mastermind.
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In this video, I'm talking to over 1000 home service business owners inside of the HomeWorks community.
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This is usually just reserved for inside of HomeWorks membership.
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We also talk about how to build a culture that is not just based on compliance, but is also built on having goals oriented with your employees and having great one-on-one meetings.
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So without any further delay, let's jump into this.
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And if you'd like to be part of this mastermind, feel free to join at home.works.
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We are a fertilization and weed control company.
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When we first started years ago, the majority of our service was fertilizing with seven spray cycles per year.
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More of our business is shifting to just weed control on non-grass properties.
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This is causing a huge scheduling imbalance.
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the workload doubles or even triples during the odd number spray cycles.
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It's almost to the point that we need another employee just for the odd number cycles, but that doesn't seem realistic for everyone to only work six on and six weeks off all year.
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Now, most of us as business owners, we like to offer full-time jobs and we think that everyone wants a full-time job.
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When the reality is people's life situation, sometimes it would be perfect to have six weeks on six week off.
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And so I would put, first off, I would, before you change the business model, I would just challenge that assumption and put a job hiring, an ad up that says you're going to wait six weeks on, six weeks off all year round.
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You might put that person on salary too, and they're okay with that because they are like, hey, I wanna work really hard, and I'm gonna go to a different state where my family's at, and that's where I'm gonna hang out with them, and I'll come back and I'll work here, and I can make more money here, and then go to a lower cost living state and stay back with my family.
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So I would first challenge the assumption, because I say it mostly not at you, Ketur, but every time I have ever thought,
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I need to change my business because the scheduling of the team, every single time I have just posted a job ad that states, here's the parameters of this job.
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There are people that want that.
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In fact, you are now competing in a market where no one else is like most other companies are not offering six weeks on six weeks off year round.
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They're offering eight months, 40 hours a week for eight months of the year, for example.
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So you're actually, even though you're, the amount of people you're going after might be way smaller, the amount of people looking for that type of schedule might be smaller.
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The amount of businesses looking for that schedule also lower.
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So I would first challenge the assumption.
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And secondly, I would look very hard at scheduling to see, can we move these slightly in left and right directions?
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And even if we had to give people discounts, or even if we had to sub out certain of these cycles to be able to get certain parts that might not be as integral or important, I don't know what kind of sprays you're putting down.
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But like you, you have spraying of certain chemicals, maybe some of those you sub out just so you don't have to increase the amount of capacity of the business to the highest level.
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Cause if you could say, Hey, I only need like for three weeks, three times a year for three weeks, I need like tons, like double the capacity.
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That's when you don't want to go out and buy trucks, get equipment, hire people for the highest period of the year.
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You would rather have it where you sub out those periods.
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Or even more importantly, I would move your seven spray cycles to accommodate the four times when you know you're going to be spraying the weed control.
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Again, I don't know your market.
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It just – this was always a limiting belief for me around hiring and then also a limiting belief around the fact that I thought all these – like when we did treatments back in the day, I always believe these treatments have to be done this week.
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When it's like, look –
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If I can take other jobs and reduce budget hours of other services and then move the cycles left and right, i.e.
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a week before, a week after, and make sure that during those times I have left budget hours of other work.
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So basically what you have here is you have multiple budget hour capacities.
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I think some of those things you might have already done, so I would first go to the lowest hanging fruit, which is just change your job ad and you might be surprised.
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Number one, how do you mentally navigate the guilt of stepping away from day-to-day operations to focus on architect mode and personal growth?
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I struggle with the first one in, last one out mentality, and I'm looking for the right thought process to handle the concern of what my team might think when I'm not physically present in the office each day.
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Yeah, so I abide by the first one, first out mentality when I'm in growth mode.
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If I'm in profit mode, and once the location is stable and there's profit sharing, that's when I feel like I can step out.
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That's just me personally.
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I'm not saying...
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I still struggle with this to some degree, but I also know that I work on the weekends, I work at night.
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That's how I justified it first because I just have to make sense of the fact that I know I'm working way more hours later and there's another shift that happens.
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That was how I first did it because I struggle with this too.
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And then now it's a matter of creating incentives to where it is in their best interest to make sure that the business is taken care of.
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And they start to see the benefit of me stepping away.
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The best ideas, like literally last week, a huge promotion and like change in the team structure was when I was away.
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And that's when I have the most time to focus on like rebuilding systems, talking with AI, figuring out how things need to be changed.
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There's something about flying too that's just like you're locked away in this tube, 30,000 feet above, and you can think about more broad things.
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them having a understanding as to why that helps the business, but also having a vested interest with profit sharing or their comp plan being tied to the vested interest of the business is a big one.
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Number two, I took your feedback on last week's mastermind and concluded that leadership is our biggest constraint.
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We have four new late managers that are in either different roles or have different team members or have team members that report to them now for the first time.
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What are some tactical ways to grow and develop my team's leadership?
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I brought them to a leadership conference this offseason with Sam, G, and Dan Ralphs a few months back.
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I am having each listen to the Audible book, How to Win Friends and Influence People.
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What else would give us the best leadership growth results?
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I'm a big fan of Jocko's book, Leadership Training and Tactics.
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The best leadership book that I've ever read that is super tangible.
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I will also say nothing beats alignment of goals when it comes to management by far.
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And so if you don't know what each of their goals are and you don't know how them winning in the business aligns with that, that's where I would start.
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I'll have a video coming out on this in June about how I do my one-on-ones with managers, how I make sure that we have a goals-oriented structure instead of a compliance-oriented structure.
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Because compliance and correction is the fastest way to be able to get done what you want done in the business.
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And that's why most of us will operate through checklists, SOPs, and those things are important.
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in your culture without having goals being aligned, then you have high churn at the management level.
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And so there's a video I have coming out in June when I'm starting to talk more about my business and how I do my stuff.
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And this is one of the most important things I think once you have mid-level managers is yes, you need compliance.
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Yes, you need correction.
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It's expressly shown at the leadership level because technicians sometimes will actually thrive or adopt or really enjoy having a structure of compliance because they like structure.
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They like, do these things, do this checklist, follow this script, do these things.
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If you do this, you get rewarded.
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Just that alone is enough.
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I have found it most beneficial to have long tenured leadership.
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And in order to have long tenured leadership, I need to ensure that I know what their goals are and then that the goals of the business align.
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And that's usually going to be through compensation, but also could be things like time off.
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Like some people, time off is way more important to them.
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flexibility, way more important to them.
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Have a company truck, way more important to them.
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So I need to know what their goals are, and then I just align the goals of the business with theirs.
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I've just consistently seen the people that build the biggest businesses have low churn at the leadership level, and they're willing to work with their leaders to make sure that their leaders' goals are aligned with the businesses, and the goals of the business are aligned with that of their leaders.
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And I've been very blessed in that category in terms of leadership, a tenor, and not having churn at that level.
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All right, so if you're wondering how you can be part of the mastermind, this is for all members of Homeworks.
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So every single week or two, we will hop on a call, answer all questions from the members.
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And the reason we do this is because at Homeworks, we actually guarantee you'll grow your business by at least 10% in revenue or profit in the first 12 months.
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And on average, that number is actually 38, over 38% of the amount that people grow their business in the first 12 months of joining the software.
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But the reason we do the mastermind and we had the Facebook group and we do our onboarding sequence the way we do, and I'm on those calls, is because what we found is you can get all the features in the world, but if you don't use it, it's not going to impact the business.
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And so when we made the guarantee around growing your business by at least 10% in revenue or profit, we realized we'd have to give more coaching and training of using the tools.
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But also when you grow really quickly, there's other constraints around leadership and labor and hiring and creating systems and operations.
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And so that's really what we try to cover on the mastermind and inside the group to be able to make sure that as someone grows, they don't actually grow.
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completely reduce the business or go bankrupt just because a fast growing business, even if it's profitable, can go bankrupt if things like accounts receivable aren't held in check.
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Training your team isn't done right.
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You're not able to hire great employees.
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And so these are a lot of things that we cover inside the HomeWorks Member Mastermind.
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So if you want to join, that's how you'll get access to these calls.
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Jeremy from Klein Lawn Care and Snowplan, what are some good ways to show employees that you appreciate them and care?
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Should you be doing this differently with people that have been with you for long term versus new hires?
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Great question.
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I think for newer hires, one of the ways to show that you appreciate them and care, yes, there's the little things, and those things are important.
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If you're more of a gift-giving type of person and your love language is gift-giving, you're usually the type of person that is like, got to go buy them ice creams and pizzas and do them at breakfast in the morning.
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And those things are good.
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Don't get me wrong.
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They are 100% good.
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For some people, that just seems so weird to them.
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Everyone is different in terms of how you give thanks.
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And show appreciation is usually the way you like to be shown appreciation and given thanks.
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So just be careful with that because a lot of us are money motivated as entrepreneurs or you're trying to get a bad situation.
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So you start a business because of that.
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The way that you show thanks to people is like, all right, I got to give him more money or I've got to give him a bonus.
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Sometimes that's not actually their motivation.
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In my opinion, if you have showed them the right level of care and appreciation, I will also say a personalized appreciation and care is always more impactful
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than broad strokes of appreciation.
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Giving money really fast is probably the most expensive way to be able to show appreciation.
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For example, if you should raise someone's pay by $2 an hour and they're working full-time, that's $4,000 a year.
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Now, this came really of reality to me at my shop years ago, my first location,
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I remember there was a couple employees murmuring about something, and the team members kind of stood up, and they were like, hey, we know Mike cares because last Thanksgiving and every Thanksgiving, he buys us turkey, ham, pie, and apple cider.
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worried and anxious about trying to like get higher hourly weights and like P4P and bonus and profit sharing and trying to give them a couple of dollars more per hour on base pay.
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That's thousands of dollars.
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Sometimes just taking dollars and cents that you would otherwise deploy towards base pay or something and be like, okay, should we do dental?
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It's not going to cost you a lot.
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Insurance, health insurance.
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Okay, I can't afford that yet.
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Okay, do a health stipend where it's like, hey, I'll cover your gym membership for up to 80 bucks a month.
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You just got to submit at the end of the quarter and we'll give you a refund.
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These are little things that like help you stand out and they'll make a bigger difference than extra $80 per month on your paycheck and guarantee you that.
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Then the next level is when you give them a gift, it's personalized because you know what their goals are.
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That's like the ultimate.
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It's very difficult to do as you scale.
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But if you have 5, 10, 15 people, knowing what their goals are and then directly trying to give appreciation or care to them individually based upon the things that you know they like or the things they're going through is probably the highest impact.
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to show that you care so much is really valuable.
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Most recently for me, it's like handwritten notes, especially when you're at a certain size where you don't know the team members' names for usually several months until I'm working with you.
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That was a huge thing for me at first because I wasn't used to that.
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And I can't be doing their training when there's hundreds of people, you know, over a hundred, I should say.
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It was a real, not a struggle, but like a learning curve for me was like, I've got to show my appreciation outside of just one-on-one or direct contact.
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And that literally might just be writing a note to them, putting it on their desk and showing that I saw something they did that was amazing.
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Because the same way that I feel kind of disconnected or I feel bad that I can't have that same personal connection I did in the past, they also, the level of impact of that note is probably higher because...
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They have heard about me.
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They have heard their managers talk about me, but they never have got that connection with me.
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I would recommend, or like what I have done is recent, is it costs $250 for a full detail interior of someone's car.
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And they will come, like a mobile detailing company will come, they'll do like the shampooing, everything just like incredible.
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Most people don't do that for themselves because it's a luxury.
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It'll get them like a full out, completely well done interior cleaning of their heart.
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Think things like that that show that you're not just like, here's 250 bucks.
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People will thank you, but they will absolutely remember the one time in their entire life they ever got a luxury thing like that, which is a full out mobile detailing at the office from you.
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But the one that has the most strain is the constraint and all your time and attention should be focused on that.
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Any time spent on other things is considered firefighting and you feel good and productive jumping from, okay, I got to do leads.
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Now I got to raise price and do liquidity.
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I will be missing pennies, but I'm focusing on the dollar.
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And so everyone says in theory, or it is nice to say, I want to focus on the most important constraint or the biggest domino.
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And the reason we don't do it is because that means you can't go firefighting in all the other three categories of business.
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So liquidity, leads, labor and leadership.
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And I've just recently shifted to one.
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I have a video coming out this June, like for the first time, like six years, five, six years that I've shifted to one of those four L's.
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And that means other parts might burn.
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But I've been focusing on other three parts for the past five to six years.
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And so now it's time to focus on this other one, which means six months of probably letting some other things burn that are important, that are really like pressing and whatever, but it's like, this is what I have to focus on.
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And I say I think that if you are constantly feeling good by chasing fires in all four of those L's, you likely have not figured out what the constraint is, i.e.
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what is the dollar bill that you are stepping over to save pennies.
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We are looking at implementing a video training course for new team members that get hired for basic skills, mowing, landscaping, and doing weed control.
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We are also looking at implementing this for our orientation process so our regional manager gets their time back, which typically takes about three hours.
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And we want to do it in video form, ideally short form, but the hands-on training a little bit longer for orientation.
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We would rotate the speakers.
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and also ensure they're paying attention by cutting it up into smaller sections.
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We want to do a quiz at the end of each section to make sure they have to pass in order to move forward to get hired for their position.
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Can you maybe explain why this won't work, or do you think this is a great idea, or am I just wasting my time hiring a videographer?
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We just want to make sure that our training is top tier, dialed in, so we're duplicating the systems that we want.
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So I will say this, if you use three hours, you'll probably lose most technicians.
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I think you could probably get most of the benefit you're looking for in an hour or less.
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I don't think you need a videographer a phone with a lapel microphone.
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Like spend $100, $50, get a really nice lapel mic that connects to the phone wirelessly or even connected solid.
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For example, if you just do a voice note, plug it into your phone and run it up your shirt and have a clip on lapel.
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and then just have the video from your phone and sync those two bad boys, you're going to be like 95% of the way there.
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Your phone works just fine.
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Especially because I think you'll change these videos within three months.
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Once we did all our videos and it's like, okay, here's the ones that didn't work.
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Now we've changed our type of mower, different type of truck.
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Now we've changed our process.
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Oh, we wouldn't need to change this.
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It's like you, you vent, you have to have an iterative cycle when it comes to videos.
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Everyone thinks like, I'm going to make this video training and it's done.
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No, like,
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literally the next week you'll want to change a part of it or you'll add a system or you'll change something or add some equipment add a new service you'll change the way you're doing your uniforms you'll change the way that you're doing the tire pressure like something will change and so the i agree with cutting in small sections i would also say three hours you are going to
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suck the energy out of your team for technicians.
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If you're talking about technicians, it's going to suck their energy out.
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If you do it more of a group environment, mix in hands-on training, you will likely be able to keep them engaged.
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But most people that are getting hired for outdoor activity are not the same person that sits behind a computer for three hours taking quizzes and watching videos.
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I would strongly recommend any time I hear I want to make...
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I want to save my manager time when it comes to hiring.
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I almost always have seen that end up being a very rough road.
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What I like to think of it is I'm trying to systematize the training, but I need to meet the trainee where they want to be trained.
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And for most technicians, if you want them to actually absorb the information, they've got to go out and do it.
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I can watch all the videos in the world about mowing grass, but until I get in the mower and I feel the way things are operating, it's tough.
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It's tough.
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That being said, there's a lot of knowledge that you could probably get in an hour or less, do the quizzes, do everything you've said, and get most of the benefit.
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The three hours starts to get where you're going to lose them, but also you're starting to likely train things that are not just like do's and don'ts.
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It's more a matter of like feel, and those are usually things taught out in the field.
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And that's when I would much more rather have a trainer and trainee relationship, checklists of what they've got to go through, signed off on, bonuses and compensation based upon passing those levels,
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There's so much churn in the first three to seven days of onboarding, like just a good team member, whether or not they work out or not.
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And one of the best ways to lose a top performer is when they have five job offers, they came and gave you a tryout.
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And the first thing you had them do is sit down at a computer.
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They dreaded their entire job.
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educational career or they dropped out of school because they hated it so much.
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They just wanted to be outside.
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They wouldn't go out and do work.
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I'm not saying it's a bad idea.
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I would just shorten it down as much as possible.
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And everything to do with how to do the work, I would try to do out in the field.
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Everything with safety, protocol, onboarding, payroll, software, equipment, those things are usually can be done in a video format.
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Just be careful with trying to optimize it.
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I've just seen more and more of the way more and more I try to compress training, the worse it gets.
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The more I try to systematize the training and do it in a way that meets the actual demands of the job, the better.
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So completely different story when it comes to admin, for example, because they're sitting on a computer all day long.
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Mike DeLugas from Attaboy.
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Hey, I know you do not recommend syncing QBO with a CRM.
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That being said, how do you run on an accrual basis?
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My QBO still syncs with the bank account, so it seems like everything will be done on cash accounting.
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Am I wrong about this, or is there workarounds that don't require tons of journal entries?
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If you are doing your QuickBooks and single-to-bank account, you're doing cash accounting.
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For the vast majority of home services and businesses under $5 million, $10 million, I would recommend doing that because it's the simplest.
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But if for some reason you want to do accrual accounting, then I would just run the reports of revenue earned inside of HomeWorks.
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That being said, things like insurance or software, things that you might pay in advance, especially towards the end of the year, you got to now account for if you're doing accrual accounting.
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If you pay for your insurance on an annual basis, you don't get to write that off as an expense in December, for example, depending on how rigid you're being with accrual.
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So if you're actually doing accrual.
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You would take the revenue side from HomeWorks and that report of earned revenue.
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And then you would look at your QuickBooks and have to determine likely doing journal entries also already to be able to figure out things like insurance, payments, any sort of even like paid subscription annually.
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Anything like that would have to then also be journal entried.
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So for most small businesses, I would recommend if you're an S Corp, an LLC, you typically just cash accounting is usually the easiest unless you have huge projects.
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And for example, you do not want to take $100,000 that someone gave you as a deposit.
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in December because the work hasn't been started and you don't want to pay taxes on $100,000.
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But usually it balances out in the long run.
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But once you get like a C-Corp, once you start having huge amounts of inventory, once you start having a ton of payments on trucks and equipment, I'm talking like hundreds of thousands of dollars, then potentially your accountant might push you in the direction of accrual.
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Either trying to journal entry out revenue or you're going to journal entry out expenses if you're doing accrual accounting.
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Blackbeard Lawn Care.
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Last question.
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In your $220K lawn care business breakdown, you mentioned that you never want the worst month to be less than 50% of the best month.
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how should northern companies that pre-bill snow removal handle that from a reporting standpoint to eat should we be normalizing revenue monthly for internal analysis and even after doing that we still see winter months fall below fifty percent in our market christmas services christmas nights have been sold during
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peak fall cleanup season or risk cancellation from early snow, which creates a direct labor conflict with higher demand core services.
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At that time, do you still view that as a structural weakness that needs to be solved with additional services, or is the 50% benchmark not realistic for snow-driven businesses?
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okay so i talk about this in the workshop if you go to mikeandys.com workshop it's free when it comes to the 50 percent like that is a a benchmark i've created to as as to which businesses i have consistently be profitable and not profitable home services the ones that sell and actually are able to exit versus the ones that can't and anytime you try to sell anytime you try to
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Anytime when for a quarter you lose money, so like usually it's Q1 for most people, they lose money, or any month of the year where it drops below 50% of revenue, that being said, there's so many things you can do besides just adding more services.
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Just adding other services could include, like that's Q3, which is adjacent services like Snow.
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Yes, you can do that.
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You could also create a whole new brand.
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That's Q5.
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inside the workshop, which is, like you mentioned, adding Christmas lights.
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The question becomes, well, if I'm already busy during fall cleanup, why would I even add Christmas lights?
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Then maybe that's not a good option for you.
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But there's other things you can do, whether it be winter services, whether it be more and better, which is, okay, can you sell anything else in January, February, March?
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What could that be?
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Could you pull spring rush demand forward for things like cleanups and offer big discounts to be able to get customers on in January, February, March instead of April, May, and June?
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Like, no, I'm in a snow environment.
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So then it's okay.
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Well, can I include inside of my winter services, can I include things like ice melt, shoveling the walkways, and –
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the stairs and not do the plowing, for example, or maybe I do plowing as that's adjacent services here, number three.
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So I would look through the workshop.
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It'll give you five solid ways to fix the off season.
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Um, but any home service business that cure, like that is, if you fix that, so many things, good things happen because when you, when you know that every single quarter you make money, you don't have to keep so much cash in the bank during the off season.
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And that allows you to have a higher distributions.
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It allows you to be able to keep less working capital on hand.
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It allows you to have more consistent profit sharing.
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So if you hand it off to a GM, if you hand it off to managers, if you give profit sharing your team, it's more consistent.
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It's much easier to run a business when you don't have months where you lose money and quarters where you lose money and months where revenue drops by 70, 80, 90%.
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And so you have seen, yes, in that video last week, I talked about a business that's doing $220,000 and how they can fix it.
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You also, if you watch the Home Service Millionaire channel, you saw me talk to Stefano Narducci doing $5 million in revenue.
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And same exact thing.
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We got to fix – for him, it's the opposite.
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He does tons of snow, and then revenue drops to 80% to 90%.
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We've got to fix that.
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It doesn't matter what size of business.
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It doesn't matter what scale.
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If you're going to have quarters where you lose money or you have months where revenue drops by more than 50%, it's very hard to run that business.
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And it is a solvable problem that will usually take three to four years to solve because you have to figure out your offer.
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When do I pitch it?
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What time of year?
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What offer do I need to give customers to be able to pull demand forward?
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What offer do I need to give them to be able to have a continuity throughout the rest of the offseason?
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Winter services is what we call it.
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So check out the workshop.
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It should be beneficial.
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But regardless of the size of business, this is the Achilles heel of every home service business.
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That's why the off-season, the book I made, the subtitle is Why Home Services Are a Terrible Business.
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It is because of that.
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It is the Achilles heel.
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Love you all.
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Hope you have a fantastic week.
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Look forward to some cool stuff we have coming out in May.
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And we will see you on the next Mastermind.